The Deeper Vs Marker Floats


I’ve heard a lot of negative comments about people using the Deeper as they believe it’s cheating and it takes away the fun of the unknown of fishing.

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Well here are my thoughts on the matter.

I’ve used a marker float since I can’t remember when and have always spent hours flicking it around the lake and recording depths.  I still do this but in conjunction with the Deeper.  I have a few issues with markering.

1. Unless you pop the maker float up every 1 or 2 feet, you can easily miss a feature like a 6-inch hump/indentation in the lake bed.

2. Unless you recorded the number of wraps at each point of interest, how can you accurately map out the lake bed?  It’s all down to you as to where you make this spot on your map.  I found over the years that it was never that accurate.

3. In the case of understanding the complete topography of the whole lake, you would need to transfer your findings to a master copy.  This was a pain until Google Maps came along.  If you were lucky enough to know someone with an A3 printer, you could get a much better copy.

4. You would always need to carry this around with you and I’ve had the odd disaster with water/rain damaging it.  However, with modern technology, this has been made easier.

5. With the number of maker floats I’ve lost over the year’s, the deeper with pay for itself in the long run.

Then along came the Deeper which records all this information.  It’s so much more accurate.  The lake book feature on the website brings all your hard work to life (in the same way as it has been done in the past but much simpler and with much more options), take a read of my blog on this feature.

This is why I think the Deeper is a step forward and not a cheating tool.

1. Unlike a marker float, the deeper maps out the lake bed, depth and features all in one go.  There is no need to keep putting it out and disturbing the fish around a feature you’ve seen.

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2. You don’t need to drag it through your swim and past feeding fish as it floats on the surface.

3. Once it’s recorded the information, you can play it back as many times as you like without the need to put it out again.  Therefore, creating less disturbance.  Some people think this is a problem – you would be doing less time marker floating and its only on the surface.  I see the real issue here is the amount of spombing which goes on these days.

4. The lake book feature (that I have mentioned) is perfect for mapping the whole lake and has the ability to measure the distance out to each feature.  It’s on Google maps so you can see the features and the horizon marker when you switch to satellite mode.

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5. By mapping the lake with the Deeper, you will build up a better understanding of the water you fish.  You can see the bigger picture a lot better than with a hand-drawn map.

6. I fish all through the Winter and with the night mode switch on, I could carry on mapping the lake and finding features.

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7. I’ve not mentioned the fish icon feature which can be turned on and off, this also appears to be also a problem with some people.  Well, it’s just an icon for a fish to help you distinguish what the sonar is picking up.  It’s only let you know where the fish are, it does not tell why there are there or what they are up to.  This is still down to you to work out, not much difference at all.

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8. The amount of time it can save you is such a great help.  We are always rushing around everywhere these days.

9. The most amazing thing I have discovered, is that the information I thought I knew about the lakes I fish (and I even have an old hand-drawn map of the lake), is very wrong.  The most surprising one was the gravel bars are not bars, they are just cleaned areas of the lake bed at the same depth as the rest of the area.  There are a few humps which are indentations and some areas that we thought where up and down all over, are just flat.

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In regards to the cheating part.  I am not sure where you can draw the line.  This can only be classed as a technological advance in fishing, in the same way as we have moved onto carbon rods.  The money spent on the development has helped in the advance of these, far beyond the original cane rods.  And with the introduction of buzzers and remote systems, would all this not be classed as cheating?

In my opinion, any tool which is going to help the modern carp angler catch a fish in this day and age, who clearly has a lot less time to fish these days, has to help – don’t you think?

I believe a lot of the negativity is born by the lack of understanding of the product.  If some time was taken to read and watch a few blogs/vlogs people may realise the Deeper is a great bit of kit.  For the money, it’s an amazing bit of technology, which will help you bank a lot more fish.  It will save you time and give you a greater understanding of the water you are fishing.

Hope This Helps

Richard

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Meet Our Hero! 


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This is the story of our pro angler Martin. We asked when and how this whole fishing thing started. We were curious why does he love fishing and refuses to let go of a fishing rod until this day. 🎣 Here’s what Martin had to say:
‘I loved fishing since I was a little boy. My father has been fishing his whole life, so he always took me along, even before I could walk! He taught me the basics of float fishing. After some time, when I grew older, I discovered boilies and carp fishing. Since then, most of my fishing consists of targeting big carp. But sometimes I still go and try to catch some predators, catfish, or silvers with my feeder rod.
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Carp Fishing Tackle On Amazon UK


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Liquid lunch? We got you covered!


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Looking Back Over 2015 Part 4 of 10


Looking Back Over 2015 Part 4 of 10

With the success of the previse session of looking back over the year’s, I’ve decided to go back even more. This series off podcast will feature 2015 grouping multiple trips in one long podcast, from pike to carp fishing and easy lakes, to the big water I love to fish so much.

Trip No 31 River Fishing

I have gone back to the same area again as I fished the other night.  This is for two reasons, firstly – I needed a better look around when the light conditions are more in my favour and secondly – I did put some bait in likely areas.  Which have in fact turned out to be quite good.  I am no real expert in river fishing,  only want I have learned over the past few years and I can tell you it’s an every changing thing.

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I am using two rods this time, as it’s a big area I am fishing.

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I am using bags again, full of a mix of Bait-Tech pellets.

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Poloni Boilies as book baits, gluged in poloni.

There where a few Chub moving over the sand bar.  They were however, not interested in any food, so at around 1300 hrs I decided that I would have a walk around for a bit, before I needed to be off to collect the kids from school.

Till next time
Richard

Trip No 32 Carp Fishing

I am out for two nights this weekend, which is nice.

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I have picked a swim which gives me access to a few good features.  Such as overhanging trees, pads, reeds on the left hand margin and in the open water, nice clear spots up-against weed beds.  All carpy type features.

Day – Night 1

It was all quiet on the first night, despite seeing fish and the conditions be perfect.  I was full of confidence that something would happen, hey, that’s fishing for you.  A bit of a rethink is needed may be?.

At around 1000 hrs, I redid all my rods and changed one of the rod’s to a bottom bait.  I left the others as pop ups.  There is a fair amount of weed in this lake, my plan was to rebait now and only reel in at home time tomorrow, unless (and I hope) a fish picks up one of my baits.

Night & day – 2

There was a bit of rain early evening, the sun came out for a perfect evening and with night closing in, the mist appeared and the lake looked a perfect carp anglers post card,  just stunning.

I had been having beeps a lot of the night (on and off).  At 0550 the middle rod was off, it was attached to a very unhappy carp.  It proceeded to weed me up twice and nearly bury itself in the pads to the right of me and take the left hand rod out.  All good fun.  Finally this hard fighting fully was in the net.  Not the largest fish, however, only my second from this place.  This is an achievement, in itself, so I am chuffed.

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A good sight for first thing in the morning.

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Both rod’s were re-baited again with Bait-Tech Poloni boilies and mixed groundbait and pellet in the bags to combat the weed.

At around midday, it was time to reel in and head for home.

Till next time

Richard

Trip No 33 Carp Fishing (2015)

I have dropped the kids of at school and I am down the lake.  I am in 1 of the day margin swim’s by 10.00.  Not too shabby. This means I have until 14.00 to get a fish in the net,  hopefully that will happen.

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Basically, I have two bags on full of broken Poloni boilies and some Bait-Tech pellets soaked in Poloni oil.

One is a Pop up and the other is a bottom bait,  both fished in the margins under the tree’s.

Well my 4 hours was up and I need to collect the kid’s from school.  Unfortunately, the weather report was a bit out and it had turned into a lovely summers day.  In hindsight I should have taken my floater stuff.  However, I am trying to cut down what I take and days like this make me think – just bring it all.

Till next time
Richard

Trip No 34 Carp Fishing (2015)

I am out again for a quick 4 hr session.  I should be decorating the house while the kids are at school,  however the weather looked good and I was feeling lucky.

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I am in one of the day swims, just flicking the bags along the margin.  No buzzers needed, just wait for the line to zip off.  Both rods have fluorocarbon line on which sinks to the bottom and with a 2 ft pcs of mimick leadcore, the fish should be happy and not spooked.

Both rods have bags on full of poloni boilies and ground bait and glued in poloni oil. What fish could resist that?  Hopefully none.

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Well, despite seeing the fish move up and down the margin tree line.  None were willing to feed today.

Till next time
Richard

Trip No 35 Carp Fishing (2015)

I am back out for my Sunday afternoon/night trip which I have missed recently, mostly due to fish – I must add.

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I am fishing one of the Winter swims which I will be fishing this year.  Due to my house husband duty’s, I did not arrive until after dark.  I needed to do a bit of forward planning, lead around and take notes of distances to spots, in all the swims I will be baiting up with Bait-Tech Poloni boilies this year.

The first spot is to my right on the drop off of the bar which runs off some bushes.

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The right hand rod with be along this tree line, or maybe in the entrance to the other part of the lake though a gap.  There are two,  so I am still undecided on which spot.

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Both rods have had a good few large spombs over the top, with a good mix up of ground bait, pellets, 14mm, 18nm whole and broken up boilies and a few tiger nuts mixed in.  All of these will keep the carp interested.

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What carp could resisted that?

Well finally after 2 tench and a bream, I banked a nice hard fight carp.  This fish must have more or less taken the bag on the drop.  I had decided that after the last tench, my bait was not quite right, so I re-baited with fresh bait – a small bag of broken Poloni.  After a perfect shot under the trees and as I turned to walk back to the bivvy (after setting the bobbin), the rod was away.

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18lb 10oz Common

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There was a beautiful sunset tonight as well.

I weighed one of the tench and it was 5 lb 14 oz, not bad.

At around 1 am I had my second carp of the trip, an even harder fighting 15 lb 10 oz common.  This proved harder to get in the net than the 18!  These fish in here never give up!

With the alarm clock going off at 5 am, it gives me plenty of time to have a brew and watch the lake before I need to be off by 0645.  This was all the action I had, not bad really.

Till next time

Richard

Trip No 36 Carp Fishing (2015) done

Another quick trip out in-between decorating, the weather is spot on today,  so there was no way I was decorating.

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After a good look around and with only three other people on the all lake, I took another opportunity to fish in one of my Winter swims.  I would not be leading around or markering too much as I did not what to disturb the fish.

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Right hand rod

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Left hand rod

Both had a good pouch of Bait-Tech Micro Spod & Pva pellet.

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I have been soaking it in the Krill and Tuna oil as well.  This stuff makes me want a tuna sandwich every time I smell it!  Truly amazing.

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Don’t forget good old faithful Hemp oil (don’t fancy a hemp sandwich though).

Both rods had Poloni pop ups on, as I was fishing underneath the bushes. I also attached a small bag of broken Poloni boilies and scattered a few along the tree line.

And within the hour I was attached to an upset Common,  which tipped the scales at 23lb 10oz .

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With the rods back out, I sat back and drank my coffee and typed up this blog.

The hours had gone and I needed to be home

Till next time
Richard

Trip No 37 On The Avon

After a day’s carp fishing (well 4 hours) and the house husband stuff all done.  What else could I do but spend the evening down the river?!

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I had been given a top tip by the Estate Manger, that the carp move up & down a 2 miles section and don’t really go beyond this area.  So, with this in mind, off I went and finally found them in a very large area above an island.  It was not that accessible with the reeds and well trodden ground by the cows.

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Next time I may need to bring waders, I have wet feet already.  This is a very large area above the island, but it does have plenty of options and the carp did move around a lot.  I decided that the best place to start would be at the back of the pads.  This is where I had first spotted them digging around.  I fired out plenty of bait-Tech micro pellet, I had them left over from this mornings trip.  They were soaked in the krill & Tuna oil, a load of squads poloni boilies, a few pouch full’s of Marine pellet and sat back.  Well not quite, as the friendly cow’s were a pain.

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As dusk fell, the cows slowly moved off, they must of got board finally.

At around 11 pm I decided that I should be off home as well.

Till next time
Richard

Trip No 38 Carp Fishing (2015)

I am out fishing with my youngest again,  which is nice, as she is asking if she can go fishing.  I may have to see if I can get her sponsored!

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We are back in the same swim as before as the wind is push hard from the S/W.  We did have in mind another swim, unfortunately, they where all occupied.  I don’t feel it’s right to set up near other angler’s, as you reduce your and their chances of catching fish.  Plus she is a bit loud.  I have cast in the same spots as before and spomd out a mix of Bait-Tech pellet and ground bait mix with the sizzling Sauagse attracted, also with 10 handfuls of poloni boilies.  One rod was fished with a bottom and the other with a pop up,  both had large bags full of micro pellet soaked in Ktill and Tuna oil.

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By this time,  it was tea time.  We heard nothing all evening, so we both just watched the lake and talked the world to rights!

At around midnight, the left hand rod was off, it was attached to a very unhappy 18 lb 14 oz Common that took several attempts to get in the net.  I looked in on my daughter half way through this and she was fast asleep! I did not take any photos as I did not fancy waking her up, I just re-baited and snook back into bed.
We were woke up around 0630 with another take,  I ran out only to find a swan had picked me up under my top tips.  Oh well, I recast to be rewarded by another take about an hour later.  This time, it was not a swan,  but a small common of around 12 lb. That will do.

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With the wind picking up I was hopeful of getting another fish.  My daughter settled down to a bit more Roach fishing and by 11 am, it was time to start the big pack up and with no other carp, we were gone by 1230.

Till next time

Richard

Trip No 39 Carp Fishing (2015)

With the decorating all but done, I wanted to reward myself!  So off fishing I went.  The kid’s were all fed, bathed and school books read, I them over to the Mrs.  I was out of there like a whippet out of the trap, down the lake and with no one else there the choice was endless.

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I settled on the middle part of the complex with a south/west wind pushing hard on to this bank.  It had the water coloured up nicely, I was feeling very confident.

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I placed both rod’s in the margin, with a good amount of Bait-Tech’s micro pellets mixed with Poloni groundbait and a load of Krill & Tuna oil mixed in.  I also had a few handfuls of poloni boilies in the mix for good measure.

And settled down to a blowy night.

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There were a few sunny and rainy spells as well.

To my amazement, I blanked!  It looked so good.

Till next time

Richard

Trip No 40 River Fishing (2015)

I have popped down the river today for a few hours and after an hour of looking around, I decided that one of the weir pool’s looked very favourable.  I would rather look around for two hours and only fish for 2 hours, as you would not like to spend 4 hrs in the wrong spot, would you?

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There is a nice gravel bar that I have dropped the bait just to the left of, the other rod was flicked the other side of the weir pool across the flow into a nice calm area.

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Above is today’s bait choice, not sure if I will have time to use them all.  We will just have to see..

Unfortunately, no joy on the barbel front.

Till next time
Richard

Part 5 of 10 will follow in a couple of weeks

Until then Richard

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